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Prefolded cloth diapers

I'm finally getting around to answering some of my email... so stay tuned if you've emailed with a question for me in the past, oh, about 4 months! Embarassed

Today, I am yet again bringing up the topic of cloth diapering... yes, on a food blog. ;) Two readers have written with questions, and so here are my replies! Feel free to add your own cloth diapering experience and tips at the end, as well! :)

First, an email from Brandi: 

I have a couple of questions about switching over to cloth. We have 5 daughters. Two in diapers now, and 1 will be born in August. I am hoping to have the oldest in diapers out by the baby's arrival, and then we will have 2 in diapers again.

Anyway, do you use Gerber prefolds? I would like to switch to save money. But, I also know my husband would not like to deal with messy, leaky diapers or a wife that might on occasion complain about cloth diapering.

My girls have sensitive skin. All have had bad cases of diaper rash... and don't do well with store bought wipes. So, I am thinking-- can I switch to Gerber pre-folds and get a better cover to go with them? Use pins... and use washcloths and water for cleaning bottoms?

I tried out the Gerber briefly... and they didn't seem absorbent. But, I only washed them once...

Give me your insight here. I really want to save money and really need it to be a remotely easy switch. My girls are 5,4,2.5,1 and 7mos pre-born! I homeschool and am home all of the time.

Brandi, thanks for writing! Congratulations on your new little blessing, who is probably born by now (since I took so long to reply!)!! :)

You've probably already read my more in-depth post about my cloth diapering method. :) When I started out cloth diapering 3+ years ago, I had about 6 different brands/thicknesses/kinds of diapers, because I just got whatever people gave me at my baby shower! I didn't have any preferences because I didn't know anything about cloth diapers, so I just hopped in and tried them all. :) Eventually, I asked my mom to sew the flat-fold diapers into pre-folded diapers for me, because I found that it took more time and space to fold the flat-fold diapers, and pre-folds were working just fine for me. Some people do like the flat-fold diapers because they dry more quickly, though! :)

So to answer your first question, I have used two different kinds of Gerber pre-folds. One kind was thick and high-quality (like what is called "Chinese pre-folds" online) and I have never seen them in stores or anywhere else. The other kind was the birds-eye Gerber pre-folds like Wal-mart sells. Mine were fairly absorbent (for a light, lower-quality diaper), but don't hold up under heavy use like the higher-quality pre-folds would. I did like them for a newborn, since they were soft and just the right thickness for my newborns. They wouldn't be absorbent enough for Eliyahu (18 months) now, so if I use those, I add another layer of diaper.

If you wash your Gerber pre-folds a few more times, and be sure to not use any fabric softener (or laundry detergent that contains fabric softening agents!) or dryer sheets, they might do better for you. And at the very least, since you already have them, you could double them up with another diaper for nighttime use or something! That's what I use mine for right now! :)

I haven't had leaking problems with my cloth diapers, but I do tend to add another layer if I think it might be needed (right now, I have a bunch of thin, almost-worn-out diapers that I'm trying to completely wear out, so I can use my new ones!), and of course, change frequently. Joshua doesn't change the cloth diapers, unless it's some kind of emergency. :) I have just always done that job (so, I am faster and better at it!) and he helps with other things instead.

As far as worrying about complaining about cloth diapers... well, I will admit that Joshua had heard me groan, "Another messy diaper?! This is the fourth one today!" Wink 

But a surprising number of people who use cloth diapers actually love using cloth! I know I do! They're less smelly (because the poo goes down the toilet and not in the trash can) and it's fun to wrap a baby's bottom in freshly-laundered cotton! I used disposable diapers until Yehoshua (my first baby) was 3-4 weeks old, and I worried that I would have a difficult time switching to cloth. I did stay home a lot, and didn't plan any special trips for a few days, but when I switched to cloth I actually really enjoyed it, to my surprise! :) Now, don't blame me if you end up hating cloth diapers, but I'm just saying... maybe you'll surprise yourself and love them! :)

Eliyahu (18 months) has sensitive skin, also. I was using disposable diapers when he was a newborn, and when he was 2 days old, he got horrible diaper rash that wouldn't go away until I switched to cloth! (I tried allll of my tricks to get it to clear up, but it turned out to be the disposable diapers themselves that were causing it!) He's been fine ever since! I have always used just a washcloth with warm water to clean his bottom, and it works great. I like my thin homemade baby washcloths for wiping newborns, but for older babies I just use a regular washcloth. The wipes just get laundered with the diapers. Washcloths work so much better than the commercial baby wipes, in my opinion! :)

Now, to answer your question about diapers and diaper covers: If I were starting from scratch, and didn't have a lot of money to spend on cloth diapers (i.e., diapers that cost $15 each or more wouldn't fit my budget, not that they're a "bad deal", just that I need to do it for a lot cheaper than that!), I would buy some Chinese Prefolds. This page has some great info about pre-folds, and this page has ordering info (pre-folds are at the top). I have not ordered from this company, but this will at least give you an idea of what you want. And their prices seem decent. :)

Also, and this is just my personal experience/opinion (like everything else I've written so far!), I would only get the regular size of prefolds, rather than newborn or toddler sizes. They can be folded down to fit a smaller baby, which is my preference. I have tried the newborn size of prefolds and didn't like them as well, plus, when the baby gorws out of them, they're only really useful for night-time layering (I just use another diaper rather than special "doublers"). I'm a really practical person, and part of the reason I like pre-folds is because they can be used for 2-3 years without the child outgrowing them, if you get the regular size. :)

For diaper covers, I personally use and like the Dappi nylon covers. (This link goes to the cheapest price I have found online for these covers, and I have ordered from this company twice with great service.) They're a little more expensive ($2 each) than the Gerber vinyl covers, but more comfortable and will last much, MUCH longer. I did use the Gerber vinyl covers for about 2 years, until most of the ones I had wore out! But I think the nylon covers are a better investment because they don't crack so easily.

That is just the cheapest option for diaper covers (besides making your own, which I have not done!) and has given me very few leaks. I have tried diaper covers with velcro or snaps, and both tended to leak more, and the velcro wore out faster than the rest of the cover. Those covers were more convenient to use, though, and if you have a little more money to spend on diaper covers, I have heard good things about the Motherease (brand) covers and the Bummis Super Whisper Wraps. :)

So this is just the basics, and what works well for me. :) While I realize that spending even several hundred dollars on cloth diapers is a good deal compared to buying disposables every week, I've honestly just never had the budget surplus to make me want to go another route besides pre-folds and cheap covers! Recently, my mom has been sewing me some new pre-folds from receiving blankets and they work great. The two of us watch for used receiving blankets and can usually buy them for about 10 cents each. I can hardly wait for my old, frayed diapers to completely wear out so I can start using all the colorful ones we've made. :) 

I'd love it if you other moms chimed in about what your favorites are for cloth diapering! :)

Okay, now, an email from Lynn:

Thank you so much for all of your information about cloth diapering. It has been incredibly helpful. I am due with my first child in November and need further advice.  

I definitely want to use cloth diapers, but how many in which sizes will I need? Is a dozen in each size enough? What about the Dappis, how many nylon covers in each size will I need? 

I went to Babies R Us and their selection is sparse to say the least. They have 3 ply, 4ply, and 6 ply. Which should I get? Or should I order the ones off of the green mountain website? Any advice would be helpful. 

Most people think I'm nuts for attempting cloth diapering so I don't have anyone I can ask about these specifics. I really need some solid numbers so I know what to order so I'm prepared!

Lynn, you're quite welcome, and congratulations on your expectancy! :)

The amount of diapers in various sizes will depend on what sort of diapers you plan on using. As I mentioned above, I really liked just using the "regular" (not newborn or toddler) size pre-folds. They can be folded down for a smaller baby, and I have used the same diapers for mine throughout their diapering days. I do have some diapers that are thicker than others, and the only issue with using a bigger diaper on a smaller baby is that if it's too thick, it could be too big and bulky. But a thinner "regular" sized diaper should work just fine on a newborn.

Since I only used one size of diapers, I had/have about 5-6 dozen. I think the least amount of diapers I would want to have would be 3-4 dozen, since my babies seemed to wet frequently. And when I had two in diapers at once time, I had 7 dozen diapers and it was just barely a three-day supply. :)

For diaper covers, I like to have about 15 (but at least 10) covers (since newborns can have messy diapers so often!) in any given size. For the Dappi nylon covers, since the sizes run smaller, I skipped the newborn size and just used small, medium, large, and extra-large/toddler. You could easily just order the small size (or newborn, if you plan to use cloth diapers right away!), to see if you liked them and how well they worked for you, before ordering the other sizes. No sense investing into something that doesn't work for you! :)

I've never been to Babies R Us, and I've never ordered from Green Mountain! Maybe some of my readers have? :) You could always try some of each. I know my cheap Gerber pre-folds (mentioned in my answer to Brandi above) aren't going to withstand heavy use for several years, but they worked great for my newborns. I actually liked having different brands/thicknesses because the thinner ones were better for newborns, and the thicker ones were great for slightly older babies!

If you want to get some variety, you could always ask for cloth diapers as baby shower gifts! That's how I ended up with such a selection. ;) And that way, you might only need to order a couple dozen pre-folds yourself. :) Even if people think you are crazy (I'm sure some thought that of me! lol), for some reason it seems like people really like buying cloth diapers for baby shower gifts! :)

I hope this helps! And to my cloth-diapering readers, I'd love it if you shared yout tips and suggestions for Brandi and Lynn! :)

Comments

I find that the prefolds you

I find that the prefolds you order online tend to hold up much better and be WAY more absorbant than anything you can get in the store. Well worth the investment. I've ordered from lots of places, though not green mountain but I know of people who have and have really liked them.

If you want to make your own fancier dipes without the fuss, www.diaperkit.com is really great and it's a mommy owned business. If you can get some friends together who want to order as well, you can run a co-op and save even more. I got some AIO kits and fitted kits and have been really happy with them and they are easy to make.

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Great post!

I'm so glad you posted the second question from Lynn - that was exactly what I would have asked! :) (How many and in what sizes) Great advice, too - I'm pretty practical, too, so now I know when I start buying cloth, I will skip the smaller sizes (Mikaylah was ~9 lbs. anyway!!) and go for the regular stuff. :) I was also unsure of how many of everything to buy, so this is a big help. We don't currently use cloth, but it is my goal to switch so that (when I come home) I will be helping to save our family some money! (I work for a company that makes diapers and wipes and frequenly get samples, so I haven't had to purchase many of either; and thankfully, Mikaylah doesn't have issues with them, but I still think cloth is better overall!)

One question that I didn't see addressed above is closure on the diapers. My mom always used pins, but that's all that was available. (I remember the bar of soap with lots of diaper pins stuck in it!) What do you use, Tammy? I've heard a lot of people talk about the Snappis, is that right?

wipes

Even if you don't use cloth diapers you can use washcloths for wipes. I did this will all my kids because my first was allergic to wipes. All those chemicals really irritate their skin. I'd like to try cloth diapers but I want to look for them used on ebay or something so I don't have to make such a big investment.

Might I suggest..

Integrity Diaper Company for your diaper ordering needs. :) They have the best quality, most inexpensive diaper packages I've seen online! I also second the idea of getting better quality diapers online rather then using Gerbers, even the DSQ kind. They are okay but you will be starting out on the best foot with good quality cloth diapers. Another idea is too google diaper services in your state. They will have cloth diapers for sale that were used by them and sometimes you can get them priced per pound. I've seen them at around a dollar. And prorap diaper covers are good and if you call their 800 number you can get second quality less then perfect but still functional covers for around $3!!

Greenmountain is a great store as well. :) And Diaperaps has a great birth to potty trained package...
Blessings
Vicki

This is great information

This is a really great post. Would you mind if I posted a link to this post on a cloth diaper community? I think that the people there would really appreciate it.

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Cloth diaper closure options...

Thanks for everyone's comments! :)

Vicky, yes, there are several options for holding "everything" together. :) Some of the nicer diaper covers/wraps have velcro or snaps, and you can just lay your diaper inside the cover and then put it all on the baby.

I know lots of people who love Snappis, which have little plastic "teeth" in them, and grip the diaper together. I could never get the snappi to work very well on my babies... some of my diapers, it wouldn't grip the fabric at all. (It did work with the birdseye-gauze woven type of diapers I had though!) So I have stayed with just using diaper pins. I've never poked the baby or anything, and it seems easy for me... though Snappis are inexpensive if someone wants to try that option. :)

And to the commenter who asked about posting a link, sure! :)

One mustnt forget prefold

One mustnt forget prefold belts. :) YOu can find those at the EC store. :) I must add that Dritz or medal headed diaper pins are far superior to gerber ones.

Oh and I have poked a baby, more like a toddler and have poked myself enough times to have blood stained prefolds. :) I've also gotten myself with a snappi a time or two. :) but oh well, its worth it. :)

where to find large cloth diapers

So many of you out there are in the best time of your lives....enjoy it! Babies are such little treasures.....and then they grow up into teen-agers. Enjoy those sweet angels while you have them!

Now for my question...I used cloth diapers fifteen years ago and loved how it worked out for me. I still have a lot of them, though they are getting worn and thin. My favorite diapers were made by Gerber and were quite large....about 3.5 feet long. There are little lines woven into the fabric to help you know where to fold them. I use them now only in our first aid kits. I recently lost 4 when my dad got hurt working cattle, and the folks in the emergency room wouldn't give them back to me cause they were "bio-hazardous waste". They threw my precious diapers away! I purchased some more Gerber diapers at Walmart, but they are less than half the size of my old diapers. Does anyone know where I could find some more of the large ones?

I also wanted to share a tip that worked for me concerning how to keep diapers up in place. I made little baby suspenders for my son's diapers because he was so slim and narrow hipped. The onsies were always popping loose or too short in the body. The suspenders were cute and really helpful. Since his dad wore suspenders every day too, he just thought he were supposed to have them.

Green Mountain Diapers

I have ordered from GMD and they are one of the fastest shipping co's I've ordered from, and their products are great. I also have their CPF's and while I havent had a chance just yet (due soon) to use them, they are lovely and soft. And they have sooo much information on the website that it is worth it just to browse.

my diapering experince

I could write a book on my experience with cloth diapers, but I'll spare you. =) I've been cloth diapering for nearly five years now, and my third child is due this fall. So I've got years to go!

My favorite system is plain old prefolds and covers, as Tammy has discussed here. Buying the diaper service quality prefolds (usually referred to as Chinese or Indian prefolds online, referring to the country of origina) is absolutely the right decision--I would recommend against anything that can be bought at Wal Mart or your local big box baby store.

I find that it's worth it to buy the infant size. I actually buy the preemie prefolds, too, as they fit newborns so well and make great doublers later on, when your baby wets a lot more. The infant size will last until 4 - 6 months, at which point I switch to regular or premium prefolds. They last until potty learning.

Green Mountain Diapers, who Tammy linked to above, is a great retailer. They are a mom-owned business, and well known in the cloth diapering community. They sell great quality prefolds, and you could probably email them with any question you have. I also like
http://little-lions.com/
for their prices.

As for numbers...have at least two dozen of each size around. Three or four dozen are best. I use and love Snappis to fasten, as well as diaper pins. But Snappis are fast and wonderful. My favorite cover is the Bummis Super Whisper Wrap for day time, and wool for nighttime (either homemade wool covers from old sweaters, or the Aristocrats cover--the BEST nighttime cover around). Here's a link to an Aristocrat:
http://www.greenmountaindiapers.com/covers.htm#aristocrat

Just to summarize, here's an idea of a good cloth diapering stash to last you through potty learning:

2 dozen preemie prefolds
3 dozen infant prefolds
3 dozen premium prefolds
6 waterproof covers in each size
3 wool covers in each size
2 Snappis
Diaper pins, as desired
washcloths or old cotton clothes for wipes

Whew! That was longer than I intended it to be. Hope it helps someone.
Serina
http://simplyserina.wordpress.com

Chinese Prefolds Are Wonderful!

We've been using Chinese Prefolds for years. They really hold up well, and are very thick. I also use cloth wipes and just water. Works fine, and when you go out of the house you can wet them, put them in a baggy. I use a plastic grocery bag for the dirties. The handles tie the bag shut very well...no odor until you get home.

I got my diapers at www.diaperco.com for around $1.50 each. A great price and they have them now for as low as $1.20 each for the preemie size. I used the preemie size for my 8 pound newborn. They fit just fine, and now I use them as a doubler.

Here's the diaperco link for the Chinese Prefolds(CPF):

http://www.diaperco.com/store/p/148-Chinese-Prefolds-CPFs.html

I'm still using the Infant size CPF with the dark green stitching on my almost two year old with a hemp doubler at night, and the preemie Chinese Prefold(as a doubler) during the day. I got the hemp doublers on ebay, handmade by a mom.

My adjustable covers are mom-made as well. They've really lasted and I got them inexpensively from Little Lambs. Not sure if she is still in business. They will probably last until she is potty trained...they have lots of snaps, so we've been able to adjust them up from when she was a baby.

This one-time purchase should last from baby to potty training. She's already beginning to show a lot of interest in the potty, so it could be within the next 6 months. She'll be two in a few weeks.

Weird, I know, but I will miss these diapers! I guess it means dd is no longer a baby when we let these go. There are a lot of loving memories in these diapers...I especially love the smell of them after they've been drying in the sun, sweet, like my little girl. :)

cloth diapers are the best

Tammy, I think you did a fabulous job answering the questions!

I love my cloth diapers and I think that any mama who calls herself frugal should look into trying this way of diapering her baby!

Keep up the good work, and congrats on your impending arrival!

God bless you!

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Cloth diapering tips

Thank you all for adding your fabulous tips and suggestions regarding cloth diapers!! :) I enjoyed reading your comments and appreciate your taking the time to share!! :)

cloth diaper tips

Hi, I'm Michelle and I have six children and cloth diaper.

Tammy you do cloth diaper the most frugal for a young mother. If you would like to buy chinese prefolds, Target stores does sell 6-ply diaper service quality chinese prefolds. However, I have ordered non-bleached Indian premium prefold seconds online that are 8 ply and I think their so much better. The pull-up Dappi's are also great for leaks and price!

As far as how many and what size. I use regular size prefolds and have 4 dozen. This works well if they don't get washed if something comes up; then I have plenty to get by till wash day.

You need at least 6-8 covers. All though I nurse and sometimes need more for blowouts.

Ok, here is my question. I

Ok, here is my question. I have two boys, and DIDN'T use cloth diapers on them. I am due with #3 in February, and have thought of using the cloth diapers since I stay home all the time now. It seems the startup cost for cloth diapering, in order to get quality materials, is expensive. Is it still a cheaper option than disposables? I have read articles before saying that cloth diapering is only a 'frugal' method if you use them for more than one child. Is this true? What was your initial 'startup cost' for cloth diapering?

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Cloth diapering costs

There is a LOT of variance in the prices of cloth diapers! As far as whether it's cheaper to use cloth than disposables, even for one child, I think it definitely is. I did a quick Google search and found this price comparison page -- though from skimming it briefly, I know I spend a lot less because there's no way I spend 42 cents on detergent for one load! (More like 5 cents -- I use a tablespoon or two of ALL Free and Clear that I got on sale.) Anyway... :)

For a more affordable diapering route, you can purchase high-quality prefolds and some basic diaper covers -- enough to get started for maybe $50. (This is just a guess since I've never bought brand new diapers myself!)

My initial start-up cost for cloth diapering was actually nothing, because I had asked for cloth diapers and vinyl diaper covers at my baby shower (for my first child). I was given about 5 dozen cloth diapers (all different kinds/brands, and most weren't high quality!). I used those for both of my children, and are still using them (though many have completely worn out by now).

When all of the Gerber vinyl covers wore out, I replaced them with nicer, Dappi nylon covers which are still very affordable, at $2 a pair (there's a link in the post above to the site I ordered from).

Now that my gift-diapers are wearing out, I've been biulding a stash of homemade diapers, made from cotton receiving blankets that I find at garage sales or thrift stores for very cheap. I'm not picky... I don't mind if the blanket has stains or something, as long as it's not really thin and worn out!

So yes, I have had some diapers given to me, and have bought some covers, and have bought receiving blankets for homemade diapers -- and I know I've spent less than $100 for my cloth diapering supplies, which should get me through at least another two children. :) If I had originally invested in some high-quality prefolds (which are about $14 per dozen, I think) I would probably still be using them, as opposed to the gift ones I received which wore out more quickly. :)

If I were truly starting from scratch right now, I wouldn't need more than $150 to spend on diapers and covers. It is an initial investment, but that money really wouldn't buy very many disposable diapers over time. :) And yes, a person could spend MUCH more on cloth diapers if they had the finances to allow that -- and they'd still be saving money over using diaposables, but for those who need to use the cheapest route, this is what has worked for us! :)

Organic cloth diapers?

On another board I frequent someone asked about organic cloth diapers. I pointed her to this site, maybe she'll come and look for herself.

My question is, is green mountain organic? Or does anyone know where to get organic cloth diapers?

Organic meaning free from dyes, perfumes etc, kinda weird to describe cloth diapers as organic.

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Organic cloth diapers

The green mountain diapers are chlorine-free, but not organic. Organic cloth diapers means (I think) that the material they were made from (like cotton, for example) was organically grown. I'd just do a Google search for "Organic cloth diapers" and see what comes up! :) A place selling organic diapers will have them clearly labeled as such, I'd imagine. :)

Thanks!

The person looking for organic diapers has given up on finding organic, because of the cost. She is going w/green mountain. She said at least they are oxygen bleached. Basically she said for the price of one organic diaper was the price of one dozen at GMD. At least the oxygn bleached ones.

I even suggested making her own cloth diapers, I don't think that went over. But that's ok, I thought it was neat!

Leaky diapers

Hi, Tammy! I have two children. I used only disposables with my first one, and I just switched (thanks to reading to your blog!!!) to cloth diapers with my second one, who is 18 months. I wish I had done this sooner. I don't even know if this will be worth it in the long run, unless the Good Lord blesses us with more children. I just have one problem - leaky, leaky diapers:( I am trying different wrapping methods, trying to put an extra diaper, but they still leak, especially after a night's sleep. I use Gerber and Dappi covers, and a onesie on top. I looked at your pictures, and it looks like your diapers are wrapped around the baby so loosely, but you are saying they rarely leak. What am I doing wrong? I really want to stick to this, but am getting a little bit frustrated:( Thank you for your blog. It has been such a blessing to me.

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